Sespe Creek

Located just north of Ojai, Sespe Wilderness is the largest wilderness area within Los Padres National Forest, occupying 342 square miles. Sespe Creek cuts through this land and the adjacent trail offers great views of a wide valley and scenic creek. The trail starts from Piedra Blanca trailhead near Rose Valley Falls and leaves the dense green of the bays, oaks, and chaparral for grassland plains that feel surprisingly southwestern. Scattered groves along the creek provide shade for camping and picnicking, and there are several warm-water swimming holes to enjoy. As if that were not enough to justify the trek, there are also hot springs feeding into the creek. Willett Hot Springs is 9.5 miles from the trailhead and Sespe Hot Springs is 15.5 miles away. Willett Hot Springs can be visited as a long 19-mile day hike, or as a more reasonable overnight backpacking adventure.

If those distances intimidate you, do not rule out a visit to Sespe Creek. While shallow, the water in the creek is so pleasant for swimming that you could have an enjoyable time without going all the way to the hot springs. That is, you could hike one mile, two miles, four miles, and so on, and find a nice place to enjoy a picnic, a swim, and maybe a night of camping before returning to your vehicle. The 19-mile commitment necessary to visit the hot springs is not required to enjoy Sespe Creek.

Sespe Wilderness
Sespe Creek weaves through the wilderness

The water in Sespe Creek can warm by twenty degrees over the course of the day, making the temperature perfect for an afternoon swim. For this reason, April through June is the best time to visit Sespe Creek. While springs feed the creek year-round, water levels in the fall may be too low for good swimming.

Sespe Creek
Exploring Sespe Creek

Hiking:
The trail is fairly straightforward, with a few exceptions that warrant explanation. From the Piedra Blanca parking lot, take the trailhead that starts to the left of the bathrooms. Start hiking east and you will soon come to two creek crossings. In the spring when the water is high, rock hopping is required. Continue along the north bank of the creek, heading downstream toward the hot springs. The trail is straight and level as it charges into the grasslands of Sespe Wilderness. You will pass over a few rises before arriving at Bear Creek Campground. This is the halfway point to Willett Campground and common turn around point for day hikers.

From Bear Creek Campground, the trail crosses over to the south side of the creek. The crossing is easy to miss. If you realize you are walking on a path that is too faint to be the trail, double back and look for the point where the trail crosses the creek near the east-most fire ring. A mile downstream, the trail crosses back over to the north side.

From here, the trail is less level. While there is little elevation change between the trailhead and the destination, the trail winds up and down numerous hillsides crossing several dry seasonal streams that flow into Sespe Creek. There was a wildfire here in 2006 and the remnants of burned chaparral are everywhere amongst the regrowth. Press on past Oak Flat Camp and Ten Sycamore Flat Camp to Willett Campground. There are no signs for any of these campgrounds, so use your judgment and the map below.

Willett Hot Springs
Hiking above Sespe Creek

After descending into the grove of trees along the creek near Willett Campground, there will be a trail marker directing you to cross over to the south side. This will seem counter-intuitive, as the hot springs are up the mountain to the north. Cross over the creek and follow the trail. It will soon cross back over to the north side of the creek. From here follow the spur doubling back upstream. You will pass an abandoned building and a stone chimney that stands alone in the grass field. Follow the narrow trail as it climbs up the mountain to the springs. It is 0.6 miles from Willett Campground to Willett Hot Springs, and much of this trail is fairly steep. The trail ends at the hot springs, where a large rubber tub filled with teal water awaits, eager to soak your weary muscles.

Willett Hot Springs
Willett Hot Springs

Camping:
Backcountry camping in Sespe Wilderness is free and easy, and there is plenty of it along Sespe Creek between the Piedra Blanca trailhead and Willett Hot Springs (and beyond). Traditional carry-in carry-out rules apply, but backpackers may pitch a tent wherever they like. There are four wilderness campgrounds along the creek, each with a few clear places to put up a tent and build a fire. Beyond the mapped sites, there are many more places where people have clearly camped in the past. This makes it easy for you to camp in several private locations along the creek.

Sespe Creek
A campsite a couple miles from the trailhead

A permit is needed for campfires and stoves. The fire permit is free and requires only that you agree to a few safety terms:

  1. Clear flammable material away from the fire a minimum of five feet in all directions
  2. Have a shovel available for preparing and extinguishing campfires
  3. Have a responsible person observing the fire at all times
  4. Extinguish campfire with water, using the drown, stir, and feel method

Print this permit, fill it out, and bring it with you on your hike.

Wood is fairly abundant and gathering it is permitted. There are numerous fire rings already built along the creek, allowing backpackers to minimize their impact and avoid wasting time destroying the grasslands to create a safe area for a fire. When picking a spot to start a fire, look for a place where someone has already had one. There seems to be a fire ring in just about every desirable place.

Sespe Creek
Camping along Sespe Creek near Willett Hot Springs

There is a single campsite and a fire ring fifty feet from Willett Hot Springs, but the 0.6 mile trail up to the springs from Sespe Creek is steep, and can feel even steeper after nine miles of backpacking. Fortunately, there are several pleasant sites beneath the 0.6 miles spur. This is the area know as Willett Campground. You may set up a tent here and enjoy the comforts of shade and proximity to a viable water supply (which needs to be filtered). From the creek it is easy to walk up to the hot springs and back in a bathing suit, so spare yourself the hike up to the springs will all your gear, and claim one of the nicer spots down along the creek.

This map, posted at the trailhead, provides a good references for distances along the trail:
Sespe Creek Map

An adventure pass is required to park your vehicle at the trailhead. No backcountry permit is needed to camp in the Sespe Wilderness but a free fire permit should be obtained if you wish to have a campfire or stove.

To get to the trailhead: Take the 101 North to Ventura and take exit 70 B for Route 33. Drive north on Route 33 for 11.5 miles to the city of Ojai. Because Route 33 bends through downtown, it is actually shorter (and faster) to turn off the 33 and then back on it. Turn left on Baldwin Road (Route 150) and after a short two blocks make the right onto La Luna Avenue. Drive north for two miles and make a left to return to the 33. (If you miss the turn for Baldwin Road, you can make a later turn to stay on the 33.) Continue northeast on Route 33 for 13 miles as the road enters Los Padres National Forest and climbs up the mountain. Turn right at the turnoff for Rose Valley on Forest Route 5N24. Drive past Rose Valley Falls and Middle Lion Campground, taking the road 5.6 miles to the end at Piedra Blanca Trailhead.

Trailhead address: Rose Valley Road (Forest Route 5N24), Los Padres National Forest, Maricopa, CA 93252
Trailhead coordinates: 34.5765, -119.050698 (34° 34′ 35.40″N 119° 03′ 02.51″W)

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75 Comments on Sespe Creek to Willett Hot Springs in Los Padres National Forest

  1. Anyone out there in my world hike into the Willett Hot Springs in Los Padres? Looking for any valuable info on this hike…

    • Steve says:

      Like Paul i have great memories of going up to the hot springs from Ojai in the mid 70′s up 33. Best time to go is right about now when the nights are chilly and the steam rises from the pools. The ground is heated by the water flowing below the turf on the cyn floor. You’ll prob have the place to yourself. Got the worst tonsil infection of my life there- penicillin didn’t faze it, the bacteria count in the pools has got to be staggering. don’t drink the water lower down from the fissures.

  2. paul says:

    during the years 1969-70-71 i went to the hot springs that was 11 miles past the ranger station that was right there at Rose Cyn which was right past Wheeler Hot Springs up wheeler Gorge.My walk was all upstream on the Sespe River until I got to the hot water( luke warm actually) coming down the slight canyon from the left then i would go upstream to the source-which was dangerously hot- and get into the sauna that some very expert and enterprising person had constructed and left for the enjoyment of all. I had cleared my own ‘personal’ soaking pool by clearing a few stones at a depth that left just my eyes and nose above water when I laid down in ‘my’ pool that was at my temperature-the farther from the source,the cooler the water. I coul usually count on 3-5 uninterupted days alone in those summers and weeks alone in those autumns,winters and early springs.

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  4. scott says:

    Is it ok to hike this trail nude ?

  5. Patrick says:

    Has anyone seen fish in this area lately?
    I have been threatening to do this hike for years. This is the year, probably going in late April/May. I would love to do some light flyfishing on the 2 day hike.

    • J.R. says:

      Just there from the 21st-25th, no fish anywhere on the creek to Willett, flow was moderate and getting higher on Sunday morning with the storm. Last year in April saw Black Catfish at Bear Creek and 9 inch steelhead at Oak Flat, but that was very high water. April/May does tend to be the best time, I would stick with the riffles, and check out Timber Creek as a day hike from Oak Flat overnight. Be patient and go light with lazy tugs on the surface.

  6. Cameron Ray Trower says:

    I heard that there was a mudslide that filled the pool, can anyone confirm or deny this?

  7. Patrick says:

    Thanks JR-
    I’ll report back after the trip.

  8. bobj says:

    scott:
    it is o.k. to hike the trail nude as long as you are with at least 3 single females companions, ages 21+

  9. Mary says:

    Beautiful article! Thank you for all of your time spent putting this together, looking forward to the hike tomorrow!

    • How was it? I want to go up there later this month for a few days but worried that there won’t be water to filter… also to the dude who got sick who posted a while ago, always bring a water filter – you should never drink the water unfiltered. Pretend you’re in India lol.

  10. Dave says:

    I was wondering if the creeks were flowing right now too so there would be water to filter and also some to lay around in to beat the heat.
    As well, is it legal to bring a firearm on this trail? Fresh dove and quail are super tasty after a long hike!

    • Steve says:

      There was not water when I was there back in July…just a few nasty warm puddles. It was rediculously hot and we had to turn back.

  11. Lauren says:

    can you bring your dog?

    • hikespeak says:

      Hi – Dogs are allowed on this trail, but it can be a tough hike for them.

      • Max says:

        Hikespeak – Why do you say it’s a tough hike for dogs? Thinking about bringing mine, but you’ve made me apprehensive.

        • hikespeak says:

          Hi – That depends on how far you plan to go and what kind of dog you got. Going all the way to the hot springs would be an awful lot for most dogs. Things aren’t so steep at the beginning, so if you’re only plan to hike in a few miles to camp, your dog will probably be OK. Bring extra water for your dog for when you’re away from the creek as the trail can be long, hot, and dry. Be safe and have fun!

  12. eric says:

    Has anyone been up to the springs recently? It was so hot and dry up here this summer and fall I’m wondering how the water level in the creek and springs is looking…

    thanks

  13. Erik says:

    The directions given are a bit confusing… why does it have you get off the freeway just to get back on. Can anyone provide me with some clarification? Thanks!

    • hikespeak says:

      You are welcome to take Route 33 all the way through Ojai, but it is shorter and quicker to follow the directions provided, which trim off a section of Route 33 as it passes through downtown Ojai, hitting traffic lights.

    • Yendor says:

      The simplest way is just to stay on 33, which makes a sharp left BEFORE ever entering downtown Ojai (the left is a “T” intersection: straight goes to downtown Ojai, left to continue up to the hills). The left is clearly marked and there’s a Vons shopping center to the left as well.

  14. Daisy says:

    Thank you!

  15. Erik says:

    awesome thanks for the tip! I am going up this weekend I will report back on how the conditions were when I get back!

    • Andy says:

      Definitely report back please. I’m planning on a two-day trip up there on the 16th with some friends. Would love an update.

      • Erik says:

        Will do! it looks like this weekend is gonna be a cold one!

      • Erik says:

        It is gonna be a cold one on Friday according to weather report thursday-friday morning its supposed to rain with snow elevation dropping to around 2,500 ft. It is gonna make for a cold but great trip!

  16. Erik says:

    about how does it take to get to the campsite areas at the base of the hot spring?

  17. Scott says:

    Hey Erik,
    How was the trip and is the water flowing? Also, did you have to do a lot of crossing on the way (walk in or were you able to hop rocks over),
    Just wondering as planning a trip there in a couple of weeks and yours is the latest entry. Hope to go before it gets too hot..
    Thanks ahead of time for the update!

  18. luke says:

    my uncle’s truck was broken into while we were backpacking. Beware!!!

  19. Frank says:

    Thanks for the report Luke. I’m thinking of driving my old beater to the trailhead rather than my regular ride.
    Anybody see any fish this year? I’ll be going in May. I like the heat myself….

  20. Joshua says:

    Looking to take my scout troop in May because the guys need a 20 mile hike for the hiking merit badge. Back and forth is just about the 20 miles they need, but I’m wondering if there’s quite a lot of elevation change.

    • hikespeak says:

      Hi-
      This seems like a good option. There is rolling terrain along the trail. There is only about 500 feet between the high a low points of the trail so there aren’t any climbs that are too long or steep. Enjoy!

  21. FISH GUTS says:

    I JUST WENT UP THRU DOUGH FLAT AND MAKE SURE YOU READ THE MAP WELL AND THE BURNED SIGNS ALONG THE WAY. THE TRAIL IS NOT WELL MAINTAINED AND YOU LOSE WATER ON THE WAY BACK SO MAKE SURE YOU FILL UP WELL ON THE WAY OUT BECAUSE IT IS ALL UP HILL. IF YOU GO THIS WAY I WOULD SAY NO LATER THEN MID APRIL. TOO DRY THIS WAY.

    • Frank says:

      Camped at Oak Flat May 16-18. Very low water but the weather was perfect. Mid to high 70′s and always a breeze. Day trip to Willett and the cabins. Met a younger foursome of campers who went on to camp at Willett. Nice guys. Other than them, we were the only ones beyond Bear Creek that I know of until the weekend. We literally passed 100 people on our way out Saturday. Almost had an “incident” with a big, aggressive and unleashed dog owned by an irresponsible kid near the Piedra Blanca trailhead. I heard the dog yelp a few minutes later. He either got kicked or a snake got him.
      Highlight of my trip: after breakfast in camp I was standing by one of the tables next to a big oak and suddenly heard what sounded like an incoming mortar. The whooshing sound of something dropping right on top of us. I looked to the trail to see if there was a report of smoke or sign of where it came from and my buddy, who was standing in a better position than me could see 2 large hawks locked together, free falling right over our heads. They broke away right at tree top level and flew off in separate directions (I did see that last part). Either fighting or mating I would think.
      Either way, it was an awesome experience. I have seen it once before at a great distance, but the sound was frightening and unexpected. Also had a deer pass by our camp both afternoons heading for water.
      We got lucky in May as far as weather was concerned. Beat the crowd also. And we got dropped off/picked up at the trailhead so no worries about getting broken in to or our fuel siphoned.

  22. Cynthia Daniels says:

    I walked up the trail from the parking lot to the first sign and asked 2 groups hiking out Sunday afternoon about the water levels. There’s enough water in the swimming holes, but the creek is low. The second group (about 15 kids) came back from Sespe Hot Springs (31 miles round trip). The leader said the springs was really hot since there was no creek running through it. It was is the mid-80s (air temperature) at 3:00 on Sunday, 5/19. We’re going in about 2 weeks for a quick backpacking trip.

    • Cameron says:

      Hi Cynthia, could you give a report on willet hot springs when you get back, planning to go in july with my girlfriend while I’m home. Thank you!

      • tatyanna says:

        We would also like to know about water levels; shooting for 4th of July weekend and want to make sure it’s worth the 5 hour drive! Cynthia, how was it end of May? Thanks!

  23. gary says:

    was there in april 1973. I remember a bunch of pools at different intervals descending the down hot stream. the lower the pools the cooler the water. the cold creek ran next to it nearby. someone had built a small wooden sauna on the hot stream where it was very hot. it was incredible. you could jump back and forth between the hot and cold streams. the rumor was army corps of engineers was up there practicing and made all the small pools on the hot spring. nothing but very cool hippies (of which I was one). every one walking around nude. lots of great recreational drugs.no ripoffs and no stealing. equal amounts of men and women. great memory from my youth.those were the good old days. maybe floods took out bathing pools? I haven’t heard any mention of them by anybody.

  24. Mike says:

    We just returned from a backpacking trip from the Piedra Blanca Trailhead to Willett Hot Springs. It was a long, hot trip with very little shade. When I say very little, I mean close to none. There’s also very little water. Bear Camp has a large pool, with super loud Arroyo toads croaking at night. The next water source is a very murky, algae filled pool at Oak Flats. The water level is extremely low. After that, the only other water source is the Willett Creek Spring, which is the best tasting water on this route. Be sure to fill from the very bottom of the spring, where it meets the Sespe.

    Other than those three locations, the water is completely dried up and the hike is a little depressing. Most of the greenery is dead or gray and the hike is very hot and dry. It is best to hike at night on a full or close to full moon, as the trail is very clearly marked and it’s much cooler. The super moon this weekend was amazing!

  25. The wife and a few friends went up to scout Middle Lions Camp / Lower Lion’s and it’s famous cliff-dive and swimming hole just this last weekend July 6th. Weather was actually a good 80 degrees, which is quite doable, but sadly the creeks & sespe river were next to dry. Stagnant water barely running in Middle Lions, and a dry creek bed in lower lion’s Camp. The swimming hold had gone down at least 8-9 ft. but there was still enough water for a little dip (roughly around 8ft. at it’s deepest point). Usually the water level in the swimming hole is 15-20ft at it’s highest. Hopefully we will have some great rains this Nov-March 2014 to fill everything back up!

  26. SSP says:

    Hello all – Thinking of bpacking this trail in early October. Is there anough water for: a) drinking (filtered of couse); and b) soaking in the tub/springs?

    Thanks for any insight -

    • AS says:

      SSP — Just hiked to Willett this past weekend and the creek bed was dry, the entire hike. There was a spring at Bear Creek (about halfway point) that you can fill up and the water is cold. Highly recommend you plan to stop there to get water. After that, you won’;t find a lot of running water until you get to Willett. There is running water there and some pools deep enough to get in and cool off. By the abandoned cabins, you will find faucets, fed by a spring high up on the mountain but they DO NOT run consistently (almost like the available water is from condensation). We washed our clothes in the creek by our camp site and did make the hike up to the hot spring. Good hike but definitely plan for the water!

  27. AM says:

    WARNING: BRING ALL THE WATER YOU WILL NEED.

    Our group was there this weekend, and there is no water available for drinking. Drinking water flows from a small spring a few hundred yards above the old cabins, into a 55 gallon drum, then down a gravity-fed pipe to two spigots near the old cabins. We used every last drop of the (nasty) water in the cistern, and I walked up the hill to find that the spring had run dry some time ago. When it does start running, make sure you treat this water, as I’m sure the tank has a little fetid puddle at the bottom, stewing in the heat.

    The hot springs are the only source of water right now. They are running strong. We used an extra piece of flex hose setup a siphon and drained the pool for a good cleaning. The springs refilled the pool in ~30 minutes. Temp was probably a few ticks over 100.

    There are small pools of standing water where the hot springs creek reaches the valley floor, but I’m not sure I would drink it. Maybe in an emergency, and only if nuked with chlorine or iodine. These stagnant pools are the only water for miles around, so it’s teaming with critters who care not where they poop. Also, not sure what the sulfur and mineral profile is of the hot spring water–not sure what if any consequences await after drinking here.

    As AS noted above, Kerr Spring was running. It’s about .5 miles downstream from Bear Creek Camp. Make sure you know where it is, and mark it on your map or GPS. The trail passes through unusual, dense clump of forest on the south side of the river. The canopy here is only possible because of the spring. Look for a small side trail leading up above the main trail. As of this weekend, it had some fallen logs across it. A hundred yards up, you’ll find the spring flowing from an exposed pipe.

    I’m going to call the Los Padres Ojai district office this morning to warn them about the water situation at Willett. Hopefully, they can post a warning notice at Piedra Blanca.

  28. Nathan Blackburn says:

    Great Info on this hike! Im looking at doing a one night here in next couple weeks. Anyone have any more recent info about the drinking water situation?

  29. Patrick says:

    Heading out this way for the first time in several years Thanksgiving weekend. Hopefully there’s no one else out there. We go camping on Black fridays to make sure and stay away from city traffic and tickle-me-elmo-killers.

    We should have a pretty sizable group, and I hope that anyone else considering this hike that weekend is excited to rub knees hahaha.

    We’ll have females, but won’t be hiking nude, OR beer-bonging teal-colored nature-tub water. I shall bring a filter.

    Any interested parties (guys must bring a girl) please call us to see if you want to go. (805)754-6930 Should be arriving early the morning of the 29th.

    • Eddie says:

      Patrick,

      The gf and I are planning on camping there over Thanksgiving weekend. I’ll give you a call once we finalize our trip details. It’s been a while since I’ve planned a backpacking trip on my own and it’d be nice to have some friends on the trail. The low water situation does have me a little concerned. How will you be handling the water situation?

  30. Lisa says:

    Just did this hike this weekend. Beautiful fall colors on the trees – really stunning! There were just a few spots with running water (didn’t check spring at Bear Creek). Just before Oak Flat we crossed a very low running creek that we could have scooped enough out of to filter if we were desperate. We stocked up at Willet – filtered about 6 liters from the low running creek for our morning coffee and return journey.
    Thanks for all the info here!

    • John Nader says:

      Hi all, am wondering about more recent water conditions – anyone been there in 2014? I plan on doing the trail from Piedra Blanca to at least Bear Creek and possibly on to Oak Flat and Willet alone (well, with my dog) on Feb 8-9. Any thoughts about best places to get water along the way right now? Bear Creek, Kerr Spring, Oak Flat, Willet, Timber Creek? Any info at all would help. Thanks!

  31. Jim On A Lark says:

    Willet spring had water today (2/4). It wasn’t hot and not close to deep enough to soak in, though. I tried to link a photo from FB, but geniuses that they are they can’t imagine that I might want to make one, but not every, picture public.

    I got lost where the trail crosses the creek N to S and ended up wading in water more than knee deep trying to find the trail again. So there was plenty of water today (2/4). It may have rained/snowed in the area last night, though.

    FO FB.

  32. James says:

    I am planning to take this hike to Willett in about a week. Does anyone have an update on the water situation?

  33. shannon says:

    Any water updates? reek water sufficient to filter, soak in?

    Thanks

  34. Shannon says:

    Any water updates? Any water at the Hot Springs? Water in the creek sufficient to filter?

    Thanks

    • Zach says:

      Water in the creek is ankle to shin high and moving all the way from the trailhead to Willett. Plenty to filter. Absolutely gorgeous out there right now. Surprisingly green, and all the wildflowers are in bloom.

  35. Ej says:

    What is the current water conditions? I am thinking about going this weekend

    • blake says:

      hey did you end up going? im plannin on a spur of the moment trip with a couple friends for tomorrow and the next day- how are the hot springs? would you say its a good time to go? we have never been

      • Brett says:

        Hi Blake! Did you end up going as well? How was the water there this week? I am planning to be on the trail 6/14 – 6/15.

  36. Mary says:

    I drank unfiltered water from the falls today. Will I get ill? What should i do?

  37. Ron says:

    Has anyone encountered a mountain lion or a bear on his/her hike? How about the frequency of seeing rattlesnakes along the trail/creekbed? Is this the area where Mike Herdman got lost?

  38. […] morning. I hadn’t been out walking much during the winter, and I’d been wanting to take this backpack to Willet and Sespe Hot Springs for two years. I was raring to go, but I got bogged down in odds and ends. Before I knew it, […]

    • Laurie says:

      Is the hike worth going if the water levels are low because of drought? Can you have a campfire if the fire season is high? Planning in August.

      • Tonya says:

        I spoke with a Ranger last week. I’m headed out to do this hike this weekend July 18-20. She said no campfires and we had trouble figuring out the water levels. It’s low but I think its doable. Since it’s a short hike we’ll load up on extra water.

    • Max says:

      Just hiked it July 19-20. Got as far as Oak Flats Campground (6.8m) and there was no water but a sludgy puddle. Had to turn back to camp at Beartrap Campground where it was 5-6′ deep in spots.

  39. Kai says:

    Any updates on the water situation? Looking toward going out in the next couple weeks and wondering if we need to hike in with all our water or if we can filter it during the hike. Is there any place we can get consistent updates from rangers?

  40. Travis Bird says:

    I am looking to take this hike in a couple of weeks. Anyone have a water update?

  41. Ben the backpacker says:

    Just got back today from an overnight to Willet hot springs. Only place I found water was at bear creek and Willet. Nothing except hot sludgy pools every couple miles. Carry a lot, it’s hot. And don’t leave home without a filter. I ended up filtering water near Willet, in a 3″ deep 1′ wide “stream” that was close to 80 degrees. It was run off from the hotspring, and tasted like tap water. The hotspring is beat. Don’t waste your energy climbing the steep, slippery trail to get to it. It had stagnant water in it about 3/4 full, and was not flowing. The piping was all jacked up and in need of some repairs. If you have an engineering spirit, all the supplies are there. I will even hike with you and help. But you are in charge. Haha. Good luck, follow the directions above, and have fun! Oh yea, and stop at bear creek with some light tackle to catch yourself some bluegill and catfish!

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